Home Who Is Mailing Lists Frequently Asked Questions Mailing List Archives Required Software .shn's In Circulation Server / Siteops IRC Seeding The Bands on Server Team Link to in the News Legal Stuff Happy Links | usage welcomes lovers of all types of music. We support the discussion and trading of the highest quality recordings of:

  1. live performances;
  2. by bands/performers that allow taping and trading;
  3. in a lossless compression format.
Many bands are very clear in their support of taping and trading: Grateful Dead, Phish and Dave Matthews Band, for example, all have written policies on taping and trading. has information on many other taper-friendly bands. There are also links on that page to other information on bands that allow taping and trading. You may use the appropriate mailing list to discuss any band or performer that allows taping and trading.

Conversely, there are performers who are notoriously against taping and trading (Bob Dylan and Live, to name only two). You may not use the mailing lists to discuss such artists. Solicitations to exchange music by these artists are prohibited and will not be tolerated.

There will always be performers whose views on taping and trading are unknown, or unclear. If you would like to trade music by such a performer, it is up to you to demonstrate to the Server Team that the person or band at issue does indeed allow trading. In other words, if you offer to trade music by someone who is questionable, we will ask you to refrain from doing so -- until you can show us that it is OK.

Finally, so-called liberated bootlegs -- CDs that were not officially released by the band, but rather were pressed by an unauthorized company -- are subject to the same test: If the liberated bootleg is of a performer that allows trading, you may discuss it on lists; if the liberated bootleg is of someone who is anti-trading [or we're not clear on their trading stance], you may not. | zero-tollerance policy against bootleggers is a community of music fans that freely trade and distribute the music of bands that allow the audio taping of their live performances. As a community, condemns anyone that sells or attempts to sell the music available via maintains a zero-tolerance policy towards any persons selling music distributed by or the selling of any original copyrighted CD jewel case artwork that is made available on the website or associated file (FTP) servers.

The community maintains a steady vigil against people that try to profit from the selling of discs by:

  • Closely monitoring online auction houses (eBay™, Yahoo!® Auctions and Auctions).
  • Blocking the IP address of known offenders from web and FTP servers.
  • Removing and banning known offenders from all mailing lists.

All instances of bootleg selling should be reported to the appropriate authorities. Please do not take matters into your own hands! The community has had a wonderful success rate of getting such auctions removed by using the following resources: | privacy policy

This privacy statement is applicable to, as operated by the etree organization's community of volunteers.

The privacy of the users of the etree organization's web site, mailing lists, and FTP servers is very important. does not collect personally identifiable information about website visitors except when individuals specifically provide such information on a voluntary basis. This personally identifiable information may be typically gathered from community postings ( mailing lists), suggestion and voting/polling areas, and message boards. Personally identifiable information on individual users will not be sold or otherwise transferred to unaffiliated third parties, except when specifically noted (for example, when voting for in external polls, which may be linked to from the website or mailing lists). reserves the right to perform statistical analyses of user behavior and characteristics in order to measure interest in and use of the various areas of our website, but will never share this information with third parties.

If you are under 13 years of age, you should not provide any personally identifiable information on this site without the knowledge and permission of your parent or guardian. If we learn that you are under 13 years of age, we will not maintain or use any personally identifiable information about you without the verifiable consent of your parent or guardian, except as allowed by law. This may mean that you will be unable to participate in some activities on without such verifiable consent.

The foregoing policies are effective August 1, 1999. reserves the right to change this policy at any time by notifying the community members of the existence of a new privacy statement via this website and through the mailing lists. This statement and the policies outlined herein are not intended to and do not create any contractual or other legal rights in or on behalf of any party. | logo usage

The logos are copyrighted by Mike Wren on behalf of the etree organization. Usage of our logo(s) must be consistant with the spirit of, and must be in a non-commercial manner, outlined below:

  • The logo usage must be in a not-for-profit manner.

  • Alterations to any of the logos must be with prior permission only! The only exception is necessary resizing.

  • When linking to or referring to the community in the media, please let us know!. We like to know who is talking about us, and are maintaining an media archive.

  • reserves the right to have final say over how it's logos and/or service marks are used. | phish compliance statement complies with Phish's taping and digital transfer policy. Please read the following statement:

Official Statement from

All taping must be for personal use only, which may include trading (via analog or digital tape, CD, or digital file transfer). Recordings may be traded only for an equivalent amount of similar media (cassettes or CDs, pre-recorded or blank). Regardless of any expenses incurred, no money may ever be exchanged as part of a trade; however, stamped, self-addressed envelopes may be included with blank media. In addition, the mediums by which audio trading is publicized may not be commercialized. Therefore newsletters, web sites, clubs, or any other communication forum facilitating audio trading cannot accept advertising, offer links for compensation, exploit databases compiled from their traffic, or otherwise derive any commercial profit in any form. Stores or businesses may not offer to duplicate Phish media for customers or sell or otherwise provide media containing unreleased Phish music for any price. A statement of compliance with this policy must be clearly posted on all web sites engaged in trading activity.

If we have chosen to offer for sale (via physical media such as CD, or via digital download) a particular Phish performance, this "official" version will take precedence over amateur recordings being offered for download. In these instances, we require that digital audio repositories remove any recording of these particular performances from their collections within 3 days of the official release or 3 days of Phish announcing the intention to release, whichever is earlier. Notwithstanding the above, Phish reserves the right to require immediate removal of any unreleased Phish material. It is the responsibility of the site host to remain informed of the current list of Phish's officially-released recordings and to maintain their site accordingly. In no case may any officially-released Phish recording (live or studio) be duplicated or otherwise traded or offered. Broadcast of unreleased Phish recordings via: radio or online is permissible only if it conforms to all the guidelines applicable to other forms of duplication.

Audience taping at Phish concerts is authorized for non-commercial purposes only. Unauthorized sale, duplication and/or distribution is strictly forbidden. All Phish performances and recordings are the exclusive property of Phish. All rights reserved. The rights to record Phish performances set forth in this policy constitute an express, revocable license. We reserve the right to withdraw our sanction of recording, tape trading, and/or non-commercial digital audio file transfers on a case specific basis or in general, as we deem necessary. No waiver of any copyright or trademark right is intended.

If you are aware of any person or site in violation of this policy, please inform us. Thank you. | grateful dead compliance statement complies with the Grateful Dead Production Inc. / Ice Nine's taping and digital transfer policy. Please read the following statement:

Message from Grateful Dead Productions, Inc. // Ice Nine


The Grateful Dead and our managing organizations have long encouraged the purely non-commercial exchange of music taped at our concerts and those of our individual members. That a new medium of distribution has arisen - digital audio files being traded over the Internet - does not change our policy in this regard.

Our stipulations regarding digital distribution are merely extensions of those long-standing principles and they are as follows:

  • No commercial gain may be sought by websites offering digital files of our music, whether through advertising, exploiting databases compiled from their traffic, or any other means.

  • All participants in such digital exchange acknowledge and respect the copyrights of the performers, writers and publishers of the music.

  • This notice should be clearly posted on all sites engaged in this activity.

  • We reserve the ability to withdraw our sanction of non-commercial digital music should circumstances arise that compromise our ability to protect and steward the integrity of our work.

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